He's alright. I think he should still have the traditional metal helmet with the two curvy horns. I like the leather coat with the built in Sam Brown belt.
Even more fun is Con costume makers trying to duplicate what they see. Costumes off the rack used to end up with quite a history. One pair of cowboy blue jeans would be worn by Fabian and Elvis and others. That stuff makes it's way to consignment shops on Melrose. This leather Coat probably won't. The actor will make it a take away item in his contract.
Er, isn't the Red Skull part of the uniform supposed to be a mask rather than his actual face? This sort of changes the character in a fundamental way, doesn't it?
Well, yes, the Red Skull in the comics wore a skull mask, but the character of the Red Skull is pretty much summed up by saying he's a creepy-looking high-ranking Nazi named Johann Schmidt, and he hates Captain America. So if there's not much more to him that, and if he's now supposed to be a... (mutation? terribly scarred human?) not anything that matters will change I think.
Bald Super-Villains: Red Skull, Lex Luthor, Brainiac, Dr. Sivana, Baron Von Strucker, Darth Vader, Ming the Merciless, Ernst Blofeld, Destro, Dr. Evil, Crusher Creel-(The Absorbing Man), Kingpin, That Yellow Bastard, General Krang...?
Bald Super-Heroes: Silver Surfer, Professor X, The Thing, Jonn Jonzz, The Ancient One, Dr. Manhattan, Mace Windu...?
Well, for the RECORD. Red Skull's face WAS a mask in the beginning, but it's been his actual face since the 80's after he was a victim to one of his own experiments that made his face actually SKULLED. The movie supposedly has him a victim to a Nazi test gone bad, falling into the permanently disfigured aspect like the comics. Don't want to go into the Rogers DNA cloning, Arnim Zola stuff. Take too long to explain that.
Thanks for the info Jim. I was unaware of the change in the Red Skull because I quit reading most mainstream super-hero comics by the '80's. And I certainly missed all the cloning business and identity-changing of super-heroes in the last decades. Most people I've talked to seem to have hated that stuff.
What are the odds that a guy that dresses up in a mask that looks like a red skull would have an accident that makes his head REALLY LOOK like a red skull? That's the kind of crazy coincidence that makes comics more believable... who would be so contemptuous of their audience as to attempt to make up something that outrageous and expect them to just eat it up?
It's like that Twilight Zone where the old rich miser has his wretched heirs put on the personality appropriate masks. They should have seen that one coming.
Was Jack Kirby ever more wrong than when he made his famous pronouncement that he wished he could have done his stories in live action, because he thought a man in one of his superhero get-ups would look much more powerful than one of his drawings.
I mean, Jack--give yrself some credit!
I'm sorry, but whenever I see live-action representations of famous comic book heroes, I find them laughable. They look like elaborate fanboy get-ups!
Nothing wrong with that. But spending $100+million to show it to me seems...misguided.
p.p.s. if you told me that shot of the Red Skull was Jim Gorham in makeup, I would totally believe you.
That's not a dis on Jimmy--that's a compliment! Something about the intensity of expression and the pose--I could so see Jim playing R.S. under all that ruby vinyl....
AWESOME!!!!
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He's alright. I think he should still have the traditional metal helmet with the two curvy horns. I like the leather coat with the built in Sam Brown belt.
Sure to be this year's Halloween costume hit. Hey, that's the Hydra symbol on his belt.
It must be fun costume designing for a movie like this as opposed to having to just pick suits and dresses off a rack.
Even more fun is Con costume makers trying to duplicate what they see.
Costumes off the rack used to end up with quite a history. One pair of cowboy blue jeans would be worn by Fabian and Elvis and others.
That stuff makes it's way to consignment shops on Melrose. This leather Coat probably won't. The actor will make it a take away item in his contract.
Er, isn't the Red Skull part of the uniform supposed to be a mask rather than his actual face? This sort of changes the character in a fundamental way, doesn't it?
Well, yes, the Red Skull in the comics wore a skull mask, but the character of the Red Skull is pretty much summed up by saying he's a creepy-looking high-ranking Nazi named Johann Schmidt, and he hates Captain America. So if there's not much more to him that, and if he's now supposed to be a... (mutation? terribly scarred human?) not anything that matters will change I think.
Bald Super-Villains: Red Skull, Lex Luthor, Brainiac, Dr. Sivana, Baron Von Strucker, Darth Vader, Ming the Merciless, Ernst Blofeld, Destro, Dr. Evil, Crusher Creel-(The Absorbing Man), Kingpin, That Yellow Bastard, General Krang...?
Bald Super-Heroes: Silver Surfer, Professor X, The Thing, Jonn Jonzz, The Ancient One, Dr. Manhattan, Mace Windu...?
Bald Villains- Col Kurtz,
Bald Heroes- Jojak, Jon Jonnz (sp), Damn you already got Jon Jonnz. At least I spelled it right. I give up. I'll go look at my Marvel Universe book.
Hero- The Red Green Lantern, Watchers,
Which category does Marty fall into?
Hero- Balder. Whether he's bald or not.
I also notice I spelled Kojak, Jojak.
Well, for the RECORD. Red Skull's face WAS a mask in the beginning, but it's been his actual face since the 80's after he was a victim to one of his own experiments that made his face actually SKULLED. The movie supposedly has him a victim to a Nazi test gone bad, falling into the permanently disfigured aspect like the comics. Don't want to go into the Rogers DNA cloning, Arnim Zola stuff. Take too long to explain that.
Thanks for the info Jim. I was unaware of the change in the Red Skull because I quit reading most mainstream super-hero comics by the '80's. And I certainly missed all the cloning business and identity-changing of super-heroes in the last decades. Most people I've talked to seem to have hated that stuff.
What are the odds that a guy that dresses up in a mask that looks like a red skull would have an accident that makes his head REALLY LOOK like a red skull? That's the kind of crazy coincidence that makes comics more believable... who would be so contemptuous of their audience as to attempt to make up something that outrageous and expect them to just eat it up?
Ha ha, I know Rick, ya gotta love it! I need to read that story. Maybe there's a really logical explanation!
It's like that Twilight Zone where the old rich miser has his wretched heirs put on the personality appropriate masks. They should have seen that one coming.
Was Jack Kirby ever more wrong than when he made his famous pronouncement that he wished he could have done his stories in live action, because he thought a man in one of his superhero get-ups would look much more powerful than one of his drawings.
I mean, Jack--give yrself some credit!
I'm sorry, but whenever I see live-action representations of famous comic book heroes, I find them laughable. They look like elaborate fanboy get-ups!
Nothing wrong with that. But spending $100+million to show it to me seems...misguided.
Shoulda been animation.
Izzit just me?? AM I alone in this??
p.s. I think I'm more comic sidekick material...along with Oberon, one of the only bald comic sidekicks in comicdom.
p.p.s. if you told me that shot of the Red Skull was Jim Gorham in makeup, I would totally believe you.
That's not a dis on Jimmy--that's a compliment! Something about the intensity of expression and the pose--I could so see Jim playing R.S. under all that ruby vinyl....
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